Bots dc'ing players.

[blueyoshi]

Numerous times I've encountered the bots either dc'ing players at random, or being dc'ed myself. I understand that dc's can be caused by numerous reasons such as losing connection to internet, or just losing connection to the host(I'm not too sure on that one, but it makes sense, since when hosts is gone, games start to dismantle)

The point is, I can't enjoy a good game due to these dc's. Various times I have been dc'ed while playing an intense game, and it angers me. By the way, its a single target DC. Not the bot just ending the game.

1. I normally lose many ranks because I get dc'ed. If I'm correct, a leave drops your rank a good amount. In addition to this, the games you dominate in happen to be the main target for the bot to dc, thus instead of getting the 20+ kill/4 death score from that same intense game, potentially going up 10-500 ranks, depending on current rank, you lose 10-100 or so(Thats early on in the game). While on ranking terms this can be a nuisance and very frustrating.
***I just got the score from that game. Terrific, I actually gained one rank. If the bot had let me stay, I'd have definitely shaved off 10 ranks.***

2. I'm fairly certain the problem IS the bot. My internet doesn't randomly kick me off warcraft games, while keeping my connection. Normally, if a dc happens due to internet problems, you lose connection to internet, because. . as put, you lost connection. I have high speed internet, a great laptop with a great wireless connector. The only time I have dc problems are with this bot.

3.If there are details regarding dc's and how scoring goes with those, please tell me. I enjoy playing the game, but scoring if addicting. We all know this to be true. I shouldn't lose 10 ranks because the bot failed to keep me in game when I had 20+ kills.

4. I've been dc'ed quite a lot, fix it.

Yours truly,
BlueYoshi

I've tried to keep the rant civilized so far, but MY FUCKING GOD I HATE THIS SHIT! I know, its just a game, but, its fucking annoying when every fucking game is filled with fucktard noobs who feed and leave, and fucking call you noob when your the only positive memeber of team. After you get ONE FUCKING GOOD GAME its kind of nice to be able to play it. But no fucking way. Not with ANTI GREAT GAME DOPE BOT 2000XXX


"ME SO ANGRY"
by Ogremagi

[Travice]

Moved to this new board.

If you could provide us with some examples of games that you've been dropped from with game times/names, it would help us figure out why you are having this problem and quicker remedy it. Our sincerest apologies if the problem lies within the bots.

A leave doesn't directly effect your score, however it does effect your stay percentage. If you're 20-4, then you get dropped, and the game ends up finishing to the throne/world tree, you will still get all the points you would have for that game should you have stayed. If your score is dropping when you get DC'ed from games, that would indicate that you're leaving with a bad score.

I'm not trying to say or imply that you're leaving, just explaining why we need game examples to investigate the problem.

[Deege]

To be completely honest: I don't know why the bots are disconnecting you. During mass disconnects, it's often because the bot crashed (because of someone exploiting a glitch in the bot's programming, a rare occurrence) or just due to faulty and common internet connection problems that all users have.

My bot runs on my personal computer, which I leave running and connected to the internet at all times. My cable company (COX), does maintenance every now and then so blips in connection occur.

Unfortunately, I have no idea why it would target someone specifically.

Question: When you are disconnected from the bot, does it also make you log into Battle.net again? I know that Travice is almost always disconnected from Battle.net without his internet connection going out, which implies that it is a problem on the side of Battle.net.

Also, next time it happens, post the game name of the game you were dropped from and I will look into the bot log for any sign of error on the bot's part. If there is some blatant error, I can bring it up to the creator of the bot and hope he will implement some kind of fix.

P.S. Leaves/disconnects have no direct influence on your score/ranks other than not being able to play out the game completely, and thus not achieving a score representative of your normal gameplay. I am still working on a more intricate method of computing score based on score per gameplay time instead of per number of games.

I believe that a scoring system based on gameplay time reflects a more accurate representation of your score than does a system based on a flat number of games. For example, a 20 minute game where you dominate and end the game with a score of 3-0 might lower your score whereas a game that lasts an hour and ends with a score of 20-2 will greatly increase your score.

[blueyoshi]

Don;t worry, guys, I'm not mad at you I was just frustrating because I have a lot of work ,so when I do play, which is only late at night, I like to have good games.

In regards to Deege's reply:
I still have perfect connection to internet. I do not have to relog into battlenet. This has happened to my brother and friend multiple times, same issue. I can admit to being dropped with a bad score, however, getting 11/6 brings my rank up usually 4 ranks. 16/4 should bring it up more than 1, however, the dc prevented me from gaining further. Let me see if I can find some instances.

In regards to Travice:
I had my banlist up, so I may have the game records. I completely agree with you on the game playing time aspect. Its just a replay, no name however. In regards to the 20+ kills, that was what I would have had if I didnt' get dc'ed. Just incase I created any confusion. I was at 16/6/5 or something liek that. I have the replay, but no name equals little value.
The date modified on the replay says 1:57 A.M. I can't remember if thats when it ended or started. I'm pretty sure I banned somebody during that team, so that may pinpoint the game. If you'd liek a copy of the replay, I'd be more than happy to give you it, for verifacation. But yeah, hopefully that information will help in regards to solving the problem. If the bots have a log of bans, then that may help give game name.

After I was dc'ed from game, I whispers one of my teammates to see if he was still in game. He didn't respond, however, I had used the /whois command and he was still ingame. So yeah. I believe the game was an aremso, because I had asked them to switch (was 3v5 most the game), however, they didn't. So, it was the aremso bot. In regards to toehr incidents, I have no valid proof since I don't have a program that copies all the game names I play. Who does? If you'd like, you can ask GreenYoshi and RedYoshi. They have had the same problems. I know them in real life, so when things liek that happen, we give each other a call. We don't get to play together often since I live in a diff state. Well, that's all. Thanks.

[Deege]

I found the game you were talking about. You were Netherdrake with a score of 16/7/5 when the game ended as a loss for you only 2 minutes after you were dropped.

I looked up the error I got when you dropped and it seems like, to be honest, nobody really knows why that happens. Something just might not mesh well with your computer and the bot's connection to Battle.net. For most people it seems fine, but some people constantly disconnect from the bot. Trust me, as soon as an update for the bot comes out that fixes this issue, I'm going to update.

[blueyoshi]

Don't get me wrong, the bots are great, thats why I raged on the forums. Before I even got invited to the clan, I was coming to chat on giving feedback. Yeah, my replay ends at 17/6/5, but it was an intense game. They had either super creeps or two raxes and we were slowly making our way back to their towers. But yeah, it just seems wierd that it randomly does it to me and the other yoshis, even though we all use different connections/modems/etc. Its very rare mind you luckily enough. I do apologize for the rage messege earlier, like I said, I was super furstrated, and that doesn't happen very often. Anyways, thanks again for quick replies.